Saturday, May 10, 2008

Tokyo Marui Glock 17 review, By Sgt. Hartwig

Glock 17 3rd Generation
Review written by: Taylor Hartwig
Review guide by: UwS-patriot

01- Intro
As the title states, this review is of Tokyo Marui’s Glock 17. Tokyo Marui is a well known if not the most popular airsoft gun manufacturer to date. Having created the first AEG, they have led the way for other companies. Their product line consists of many models for instance the HK PSG-1, M1A1 Thompson, and a numerous ammount of Gas Blowback (GBB) pistols.

I purchased my TM G17 from . Poweredgeusa was the leader in Tokyo Marui prices for US retailers. Unfortunetly Poweredgeusa has since gone out of business, and closed up shop. I was lucky enough to have purchsed my G17 for the low price of 115 USD, along with an extra magazine, which was 29 USD. Shipping was 10 USD for Flat rate UPS ground shipping. Oddly enough though, My package came in a FedEx box. This didnt really matter, the package was in very good condition, with only the corners being a little scrunched or crickled up.

P-Edge box
-Box with Poweredgeusa paper wrapping, clearly states UPS

FedEx Box
-FedEx shipping box, notice scrunched edges

I had ordered my gun on a friday night knowing that it would not be processed or shipped until Monday. Reasonably, i had figured it would arrive 3 days after being shipped meaning it would arrive on Thursday. To my surprise when i recieved the tracking information it stated it would get here Wednesday! So extremely good shipping on their part.

Everything i had ordered was neatly packed, along with a numerous ammount of packing peanuts. Taking out the box containing my Glock, I quickly noticed one thing. All the official Glock trademarks on the box had been cut out. I must thank Poweredgeusa for taking the necessary precautions so that my order would not be confiscated by Customs. Opening the Tokyo Marui box, i peered upon my Glock17, a magazine, un-jamming rod, small package of approx. 100 bbs, night sights, barrel plug, and the usual assortment of papers (manuals and the Tokyo Marui catalog).

Marui G17 Box
-G17 box, and extra magazine at the bottom. Notice on the G17 box, trades have been cut out.

inside G17 box
-inside G17 box

02- First Impressions
So the time had come, i reached and lifted my new pistol out of the black styrofoam (or poly-something) box. First things to note, it seemed top heavy, or front heavy but i was sure this was only because the magazine had not been inserted into the grip. Another thing i looked for were TM’s infamous molding seems in the plastic. They were present, but no where as horrid as i thought they would be, and the RS Glock being comprised of mostly plastics and most likely having seems of its own, i was 100% fine with the seems that were present.

03- Grip
First off im going to have to say it’s EXTREMELY comfortable. It fits my hand perfectly, and its wonderful to hold. The grip accommodates many hand sizes. I had my friend who has small hands test it to see if he could get to the slide release latch and the magazine release. He was able to reach both just fine.

04- Sights
This is where Tokyo Marui disappointed me the most. The stock sights that are already on the gun are perfectly good. I could use them with out any problems of alignment. But the pistol also came with the optional night sights, which would glow in use at night games.
The manual that Tokyo Marui provides shows how to install the night sights. So i went ahead and tried to install them myself. This proved fruitless, though not because I was incapable of doing it myself, but because the screws used in the stock sights were to big for the night sights! I searched the little plastic container, which held the night sights, for some extra screws that they might have provided. I found none. So for the moment the extra night sights are useless.

05- Slide& Frame
The slide is plastic, but with a metal backing. This allows the energy created by the blowback to be distributed into the metal, instead of the plastic slide. So the chances of breaking your slide from use on Green gas or stronger gases are pretty low. Also on a side note found without the magazine inserted that most of the weight is contributed to the slide.
The frame is also made of plastic, but this is inevitable since the RS Glock’s frame is also made of plastic. I have no complaints on the weight or of the plastics being used. Unless they prove to be insufficient (they break in some way or another) then they are pretty much perfect and suit the pistol very well.
The Tokyo Marui has full Austrian Glock trades. Trades were even located on the top sides of both the night sights, and stock sights. Other locations for trades are the grip, and of course on the slide and outer barrel. All the trades on my glock had been covered up by Poweredgeusa. They were nice enough to use a black tape which was easily peeled off without harming the trades underneath (note that they only covered up the Glock logo, not the serial numbers). All trades are molded into the plastic, and so I must really thank Poweredgeusa for not removing them in a way that would harm the frame or slide.

-Slide, Glock trades

-Grip, glock trades

06- Hop-up
I had always heard that Tokyo Marui had the best stock hop-up. When i first took my gun out for some quick plinking i found that the trajectory of the bb was flat for the short distances i was shooting (no more than 50 ft at the time). So to test the how far it would keep its flat trajectory i got to the farthest corner of my back yard and took some shoots into the other corner. Slightly amazed, i took off the slide and adjusted the hop-up all the way up, and fired once. The bb went no more than 15 ft and then went straight up. The pistol when i received it was perfectly set, and needed no adjustment. I must say overall i was amazed at how effective the hop-up was on the pistol. Tokyo Marui definitely got the hop-up right in this pistol, and it seems as though rumor hold true, their stock hop-up is great.

07- Muzzle, Trigger, and Magazine
I have found that the trigger on Glocks are quite interesting.
“The Glock features a triple safety system that secures the weapon against accidental discharge and consists of three independent safety mechanisms: an external trigger safety and two automatic internal safeties – a firing pin safety and a drop safety. The external safety is a small inner lever contained in the trigger. Pressing the lever activates the trigger bar and sheet metal connector. One of the internal safeties is a solid hardened steel pin which, in the secured state, blocks the firing pin channel (disabling the firing pin in its longitudinal axis). The firing pin safety is only pushed upward to release the firing pin for firing when the trigger is actuated and the safety is pushed up through the backward movement of the trigger bar, the second, drop safety guides the trigger bar in a precision safety ramp that is only released when a shot is triggered by pulling the trigger right back. The safeties are systematically disengaged one after another when the trigger is squeezed and then automatically reactivated when the trigger is released. This triple safety system guarantees safe handling of the pistol with a cartridge introduced into the chamber, reducing the time required to deploy the weapon. This allows the user to concentrate on tactical considerations, rather than manipulation of levers, hammers or external safeties found in other, conventional handguns. This design however does not allow the pistol to be decocked in case of a squib round.” -Wikipedia

Trigger safety
-Trigger safety; its the small piece that looks like it's sticking out of the trigger.

Serial number safety review pic.
-Primary safety, this is the extra safety which Tokyo Marui must include by Law. Simply shift it forward and the trigger can not be pulled.

TM was good enough to add all of those safeties plus one. TM’s safety being part of the serial number. You simply push it into position and it stops the trigger from being pulled when the trigger has been engaged. Tokyo Marui’s trigger is made out of the same material as the rest of the gun, and suits it perfectly. I don't know how much trigger pull there is but it’s much better than my old GNBB glock, which had horrendous trigger pull, as most GNBB guns do.

Onto the barrel. The outer barrel of course is plastic, same material as the body. One fine detail about the barrel is that it slightly curves up when the slide is locked in the pulled back position. This is the same for the RS Glock as well. As for the rest, the inner barrel is a stock TM barrel. Probably constructed from brass, and also probably 6.08mm in diameter. The length of the inner barrel is about 9.7cm (97 mm for those who may be interested in a tight bore).
Next is the magazine. The magazines are rock solid, quite literally. The mags weigh 293g without bbs and 296g with bbs (0.2g). The magazines are full metal, except of course for the base plate and loading tip where the gas and bbs are released. Each mag holds 24 bbs (that's the most i could stuff into mine).

-This picture exhibits the bent appearance of the barrel when the slide is locked back.

08- Performance
To start off this is a GBB replica. Its recommended you use HFC 134a, because its weaker and thus decreases the wear on the slide and internals. I use Green gas, and this model can definitely handle it. FPS with Green gas is approximately 310, with 0.2g bbs. Gas usage is approx. 2 mags per 5 sec gas charges. I haven't been able to thoroughly test it because my current gas can is leaky and i haven't been able to successfully fill my magazines completely. But i have had times (such as that in the accuracy video) where i almost got two full mags use of bbs, this leads me to believe i could definitely get 48+ rounds off with 5 seconds of gas fill.

Video Segments-

Accuracy video:

Dis/Reassembly video:

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